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Sheriff, Corey, black leaders in community discussion on black youth values

Posted: June 9, 2014 - 9:38pm  |  Updated: June 10, 2014 - 10:02am
Will.Dickey@jacksonville.com  Patricia Brooks prays with her twin granddaughters, T'kerra (left) and T'kai Wells, 10, at the start of the Save Our Sons discussion Monday evening.
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Will.Dickey@jacksonville.com Patricia Brooks prays with her twin granddaughters, T'kerra (left) and T'kai Wells, 10, at the start of the Save Our Sons discussion Monday evening.
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Will.Dickey@jacksonville.com  Those in attendance filled the pews of Bethel Baptist Institutional Church on Monday for the Save Our Sons public discussion titled "The Importance of Values."  Will Dickey
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Will.Dickey@jacksonville.com Those in attendance filled the pews of Bethel Baptist Institutional Church on Monday for the Save Our Sons public discussion titled "The Importance of Values."

William Dailey worries about not seeing his friends and not graduating. He worries he could spend the next 10 to 15 years in prison. He’s a 17-year-old junior at Raines High School. And he was arrested on charges of armed burglary, trespassing and resisting arrest.

He stood on the stage at Bethel Baptist Institutional Church Monday night alongside Sheriff John Rutherford, State Attorney Angela Corey and leaders in the black community at a discussion titled “The Importance of Values.”

Dailey’s voice cracked and his eyes became red as he shared his fears about the future with a crowd of hundreds watching.

“The reason I’m here is because at one point in time I wasn’t thinking,” Dailey said. “And I’m here to face the consequences.”

He called what happened a mistake and then shared why he and his peers fall into traps.

He said his peers don’t think before they act and they don’t fear prison or the police.

Rutherford and Corey both spoke about a lack of values not just in Jacksonville but the entire country.

Corey said part of the solution is to begin the discussion about values and accountability at an early age. She said the lessons must not only be spoken but absorbed and accepted.

Rutherford said Jacksonville will not arrest its way out of a crime problem and that values are fundamental for freedom to exist.

T’Juan Kimbrough is a man in his 20s from Jacksonville who was also on the panel. He spoke about dropping out of high school and being a teenage father.

He said many children aren’t taught how to think. He said they are told they have no value and they believe. He knows this because he once did, too.

“I felt like nothing so I acted like nothing,” Kimbrough said.

That statement rang true with the sheriff.

Rutherford said the community needs to figure out how to show children they have value or they will act like nothing.

Bishop Rudolph McKissick Jr, of Bethel Baptist Institutional Church was one of the speakers at the forum. He spoke about the need for young black men to follow the rules of society, even if those rules and systems aren’t just. He said that society has a perception of who a young black man is. He spoke about interview skills and speaking correctly.

He said Monday’s discussion needs to continue.

The Rev. John Guns of St. Paul Church recounted a run-in with a man drinking beer outside a corner store. He said the man told him he’s doing good for the children, but to remind them if they see sharks not to jump in the pool.

After a laugh from the crowd, Guns said he knows what that man was talking about.

“A lot of times our kids see the sharks in the pool, but jump in,” he said. “We got to teach them to stay out of the pool.”

Guns moderated the forum and is the founder of Operation Save Our Sons, a national initiative designed to teach life skills to teenagers.

Kimbrough said about seven years ago his life changed when a man stepped up and became his mentor.

Dailey, who joined Operation Save Our Sons after Judge Henry Davis told him about it, said mentors have also helped him.

Dailey’s next court appearance is Tuesday in front of Davis.

 

Derek Gilliam: (904) 359-4619

Comments (16)

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tobot241
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tobot241 06/09/14 - 10:14 pm
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When y'all quit confusing

When y'all quit confusing moral values with self value/esteem ya might get somewhere. The truth would be more that other people and society are nothing to these kids.

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RetiredDCPS 06/09/14 - 11:44 pm
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Bishop Rudolph McKissick Jr,

Bishop Rudolph McKissick Jr, of Bethel Baptist Institutional Church was one of the speakers at the forum. He spoke about the need for young black men to follow the rules of society, even if those rules and systems aren’t just.

Guns moderated the forum and is the founder of Operation Save Our Sons, a national initiative designed to teach life skills to teenagers.

I have identified the problem. The pastors in these communities who are selling out to Corey, Rutherford and others in exchange for BIG contracts and monetary gain. Until we stop patronizing pastors who are pimping and prostituting the community, we will continue to see our problems spiral out of control.

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Libertariandude 06/10/14 - 01:51 am
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William Dailey worries about

William Dailey worries about not seeing his friends and not graduating. He worries he could spend the next 10 to 15 years in prison. He’s a 17-year-old junior at Raines High School. And he was arrested on charges of strong arm burglary, trespassing and resisting arrest.

Well yeah, that usually happens when you break the law.

Where are the responsible freakin dads, huh, where are they ?

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RetiredDCPS 06/10/14 - 02:41 am
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Is that a freaking gold

Is that a freaking gold microphone? The arrogance displayed by these ministers serves as a purpose for why the black boys attending their church cannot catch a break. Instead of being role models, they are being pimps and holding contests to see who can build the biggest church.

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Davethecaveman 06/10/14 - 05:18 am
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@retired DCPS------get a grip

@retired DCPS------get a grip ! These people are doing something about a problem that effects everybody. What are you doing?
These discussions should continue. Period!

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exusarmyranger 06/10/14 - 05:57 am
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So, the only people that were

So, the only people that were teaching "personal responsibility" were the white sherriff, the white prosecuter, and a young black 17 year old that is facing prision time.

The black pastors weren't saying that we need to help the black kids stay in school for an education. They were advising to follow the rules, even if they are unjust. What does he mean about the unjust rules?

Until the black leaders in this community teach the young black kids "personal responsibility", nothing will chamge. They want to blame the police and prosecutor when their kids get arrested.

To all the black parents that were attending this forum, its your responsibility to teach your kids properly. Its your respondibility to make sure your kids get an education. Its your responsibility to teach the proper value system to your kids.

It's not the job of a government entity to do those things. Please don't blame the police or the prosecutor when you fail in your responsibilities.

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tinman 06/10/14 - 06:56 am
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Let me guess, this will

Let me guess, this will inspire someone to start yet another program with a snazzy name and vague mission statement that will only cost tax payers a few hundred grand. This time it will work for sure!

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lilrio 06/10/14 - 09:23 am
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I agree with this approach

I agree with this approach and trying to make a difference in the community. Every little bit counts when it comes to making a difference.

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MyaPinion 06/10/14 - 10:22 am
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I agree but must admit that

I agree but must admit that persons such as Corey commenting on the importance of values and accountability must be instilled in all - including but not limited too - Corey herself in order to be effective advice and practice for all.

Lessons and Truth must not only be spoken but also exposed so that they may be absorbed and accepted by the lesson giver/speaker as well

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helpcity 06/10/14 - 10:35 am
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What kept me on the straight

What kept me on the straight and narrow growing up was the fear of God. Being raised in First Baptist Church of Oakland under Rev CB Daily, he preached about 'HELL' and what an awful place that was. The word made us fearful. I do not hear pastors use the word hell in the pulpit anymore. We must instill some type of fear in these kids. Fearless kids will not follow society rules. They don't care. Whatever happened to church buses? Every Sunday there were church buses in the neighborhoods picking up the youths taking them to church. Now these mega churches see this service as a liability. They feel they are babysitting people children. That maybe so, hell my mom sent all 7 of her kids to church and stayed home. Church gave her a break. Does that make her a bad parent? No, that only made her children stronger and fearful of God and kept us straight. We did not do wrong because we did not want to go to that bad place called hell. Yes, I agree parents need to take responsibility. Yes, fathers need to play an active role in their kids’ lives. But it's not happening and as a society we must become our brother's keeper. Whether we want to or not; we must be that village that helps raise responsible children. It will make all of our lives simpler if we embrace helping one another regardless of what the mother/father is or isn't doing. We can change this, one child at a time.

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Willie_B 06/10/14 - 10:43 am
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I would consider this meeting

I would consider this meeting no more than a stoking of Corey's and Rutherford's "political" agenda. Corey's prior proclamations of the "harshest conviction allowed by law for breaking the law" will be interesting for this case just to see how much time this lawbreaker receives. His tears at the podium were no more than a "plea for probation" now that he has a "mentor" and has seen the error of his ways". Betcha the SA's office will be "work something out" in his favor (wink, wink) to keep him from serving time. Just for the record, the Duval County Jail is full of "have seen the error of my ways" inmates. Impressed by Corey's, Rutherford's and this teenager's speech -- NOT!

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Ben 06/10/14 - 10:48 am
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I applaud this

I applaud this initiative.

"Rutherford said the community needs to figure out how to show children they have value or they will act like nothing." This is so important.

These children are very valuable. A child should never feel like they are nothing, but living in hardship and neglect can take a huge toll on a person's self esteem. We must all help these children develop their full potential.

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PhDBlack 06/10/14 - 11:18 am
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Guns and McKissick Jr what a

Guns and McKissick Jr what a couple, but anything is really start. The root of the issue is parents being parents to their children when they are 3, 4 and 5 and not waiting until they are in handcuffs to say its someone else fault.

One problem I have is I see some many times that parents go to church on Sunday and leave the kids at home.....wrong answer the kids go also...Guns and McKissick Jr don't leave that out.......

If we have to catch them at the courtroom level then do so and hope they never come back........

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saltmarsh cracker 06/10/14 - 04:39 pm
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Kids need mentors. Biological

Kids need mentors.

Biological parents aren't always good role models.

If you have time, volunteer to mentor a kid.

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Buster1943 06/10/14 - 05:23 pm
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Rutherford running for

Rutherford running for Mayor??

MyaPinion
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MyaPinion 06/10/14 - 08:23 pm
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I hope thats a joking

I hope thats a joking question. If not would that make Corey Lt Governor........NOT!

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